{"id":323,"date":"2009-05-01T11:17:00","date_gmt":"2009-05-01T11:17:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.brendanmyers.net\/blog\/?p=323"},"modified":"2009-05-01T11:17:00","modified_gmt":"2009-05-01T11:17:00","slug":"question-of-the-week-heroes-saints-and-worthies","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.brendanmyers.net\/blog\/2009\/05\/question-of-the-week-heroes-saints-and-worthies\/","title":{"rendered":"Question of the Week: Heroes, Saints, and Worthies"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A happy and delightful and fertile Beltaine to all of you!<\/p>\n<p>Who knows if I&#8217;ll be able to do this on a Sunday afternoon as I used to do, at least for the next little while, since I&#8217;m going to be on the move rather a lot in the next two months. I&#8217;ve just moved out of the house in Hamilton, and all my possessions are in storage at my parent&#8217;s house in Elora. Tomorrow I&#8217;m going to Switzerland and Italy for two weeks. And after that&#8230; well, let the winds blow high, blow low, oh&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>So this week&#8217;s question messes with your reality by appearing on a Friday.<\/p>\n<p>While in Montreal last weekend (see, I told you I&#8217;ve been moving around a lot!) I had a very interesting conversation with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.judikailles.com\/\">Judika Illes<\/a>, author of some very large books on spellcraft. (I do mean large. One of them, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.judikailles.com\/002b.html\">&#8220;The Element Encyclopedia of Witchcraft&#8221;<\/a> is over 1000 pages.)  One of the things we talked about briefly was a future writing project she has in mind: an encyclopedia of saints, which would include pagan saints.<\/p>\n<p>An interesting idea indeed. It seems to me there is already a small but growing trend in the movement to treat certain historical people as important fore-runners, whose accomplishments and life-stories are sufficiently inspirational that people treat them as saints, even if they don&#8217;t use the word &#8216;saint&#8217;. Judika mentioned <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Boadicca\">Boadicca<\/a> almost right away, as a pagan woman who many contemporary pagan women admire. I&#8217;ve put this question in casual conversation to friends a few times, and some of the names that pop up first are the ones you would expect: <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Gerald_Gardner\">Uncle Gerald<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Doreen_Valiente\">Doreen<\/a>, for instance. Other names that were frequently mentioned included <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hypatia\">Hypatia<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Pericles\">Pericles<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Joan_of_Arc\">Joan of Arc<\/a>. A friend of mine who is a Thelemite said that in the OTO, the philosopher <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Nietzsche\">Friedrich Nietzsche<\/a> is considered an important saint.<\/p>\n<p>Many communities and even whole nations already have something of a tradition of honouring the nation&#8217;s &#8220;Worthies&#8221;; this apparently begins in the middle ages with Jacques de Longuyon, who in 1312 drew up a list of <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Worthies\">Nine Worthies<\/a>, historical or mythical people who exemplified the ideals of chivalry. Contemporary governments, or individuals who are rich enough, will sometimes build monuments to its best war heroes. Canada&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Valiants_Memorial\">Fifteen Valiants<\/a> include <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Isaac_Brock\">Isaac Brock<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Joseph_Brant\">Teyendenega<\/a> (a.k.a. Joseph Brant), and <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Laura_Secord\">Laura Secord<\/a>. An excellent collection of Worthies indeed, although I would have included <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Billy_Bishop\">Billy Bishop<\/a>, the RCAF pilot who shot down the Red Baron.<\/p>\n<p><b>Who are the worthies for the contemporary pagan movement?<\/b> If you had to name a few worthies for our movement, who would be on your list? Why do you consider such people worthy of being called &#8216;worthies&#8217;? There doesn&#8217;t have to be nine of them, and they don&#8217;t have to be soldiers or military people. But they have to be historical people, and they have to be dead. \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll pass on the results to Judika, to help with her research.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A happy and delightful and fertile Beltaine to all of you! 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